115 // Learning How to Adult Again

Remember what it was like to be an adult without kids around? It's easy to forget after a year and a half of relative social isolation. As a parent of young kids, time to be an adult with other adults was already rare.

Patrick and John bring Jeff Deutsch back onto the show to reflect on his transition from the carefree pre-kid years with his wife, to the shock of a newborn, to the emerging stability as a family unit. The dads examine how their identities as adults has transformed in the process.